Sex visit to a gay sauna in Tokyo: 24 Kaikan Shinjuku

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Good time at Osaka's Largest Gay Baths

  

by sunbuns on Sunday 25th October 2009 12:10am 

I visited Osaka this weekend, and went to Hokuokan (the huge gay baths and inn there) for the first time. It was hopping with all types of men...Asian men, grandpops, and twinks made up 98%. I fit in somewhere. I think it makes me a whole lot more exhibitionist in many ways because of the fact that I am a member of an extreme racial/ethnic minority in Japan. You might think the opposite might be true, and in some ways, it is like being a 'fly on the wall' - as an outsider to the surrounding culture that can be so quickly identified as such. But it's also stimulating (although it can be exhausting at times) to be the object of everyone's interest (apparently so -- though obviously not true). I get glances all the time wherever I am.

But in a gay bath house, those glances are ones that might be admiring or at least curious. At my age, I don't pass up a chance to show off in the light of such visual scrutiny. So I often get a hard on just walking around. It helps too that there are also a hot men and young men that have well-developed muscles on a wiry, athletic frame. Not be far can you say that Asian men are not well-endowed. Size is only relative. In comparison with the overall size of their bodies, some Japanese men are hugely endowed. Not being a size queen does help.

 
The night was pretty good -- Saturday seemed to have been best to arrive before 9pm. There were plenty of hot young dudes (20s & 30s) who were getting dressed, and leaving, but then another wave arrived later on in the evening.

I got to plug a few asses, and watch plenty getting sucked and fucked. The top role is one I often seem obliged to take in such an orgy-like environment. I am not hugely endowed, but often more than equal to and many times quite a mouthful for some dude who later wants his butt opened and his prostate massaged by a blunt object: my cock. It was hot when one other non-Asian young guy sucked my cock while a small Japanese dude rode the white guy's big ass.

He would probably have liked me to plow his white meaty buns.. but I had other fish to fry that night. Hokuoukan (北欧館）is 8 floors of lockers, baths, saunas, group 'mixed' rooms with TV, porno video, and dark corners, where sex is going on. The top floors are private rooms where you can stay all night - so you might consider it as an alternative to a more expensive hotel - if you ever had reason to visit Osaka.

I also like the 'chase' - seeing a cute guy who seems interested but who can't seem to break down and give in to my advances. Of course, it's not always successful - but when a young Japanese guy gives me the look-over, I try to see if he'll want to do more than look. Obviously, the men who are my age or older, chase me too, often trying to put the make on my booty or my baby-maker (I fathered two children, remember), but at times they can be too clawing and undaunted in trying to obtain their goal: get my cock in their ass or mouth. I push them away - unless - I'm in a really horny or desperate.

Last night, there was one really cute slim hottie - probably in his early 20s - that had me 'chasing' him up and down the 8 stories, but he always managed to get back to the TV room - with his towel slightly spread -- a real tease, so nothing came of it because I wanted to leave by midnight. You pay an entrance fee ($22), but you have to pay an extra 600 yen ($6 US) if you depart after midnight - although that allows you to stay the rest of the night. There are plenty of places to sleep - but sometimes, it is 'hard' to sleep because some cute guy or, more likely, some older codger will keep trying to pull open your cotton robe or slip off the blanket to get a taste of your exotic 'foreign' meat. Pretending to sleep in order to attract 'suitor-suckers' is also fun at times, and there are sometimes a lot of Japanese men who only prefer to have sex with men that way: being seduced while 'asleep.'

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It would have been hot to go out on the streets since Osaka is full of bars, pubs, and night clubs because there were tons and tons of cute twinks flooding the streets. But they hardly gave a middle-aged foreigner a second look, when I had headed to Umeda Station, walking from my hotel.... (oh well...). At least in the baths, everyone's there to get off basically so you don't have to 'play games' unless you're particularly picky.

It was a nice time in Osaka. It's a fun city with a lot to do and see, and a vibe that is very different from Tokyo. I'm sure I'll find another excuse to come again (literally) soon.

Gay Baths - the good, the bad, the ugly and hot!

A while ago, there was a discussion about gay bath houses (or gay or men's saunas as they are called outside North America) on a certain discussion thread. It prompted a long response from me (at the end).

Kirk: So I have this odd obsession over bathhouses. I've only been once, and don't know if I'll go back. It was hot, and interesting, but I'm not much into an older crowd and it seems most guys that visit the baths are older, with the occasional young guy. Anyway, what I was looking for, since bathhouses do something for me, is pics/videos of guys in bathhouses.

Barebacker: It depends on where you go I guess. I know a lot of bath houses full of teens and twenty-somethings here in Europe. Some saunas (as we call them) will not even allow anyone over 25 or 30. (He lives in Belgium.)

Bike: I was bathhouse virgin until two years ago. Then I discovered The Club in St. Louis and been there several times. It part of chain of bathhouses. It is great facility, nice lay out, great staff and always great guys. 

hpb: I tried out a bathhouse in DC last week for the first time. i was the youngest person there by at least 5 years (i'm 20), but i still really enjoyed myself. i got advice that a different night of the week is better for guys my age, so i'll probably go back again on one of those nights.

Kirk: bike, the nearest bathhouse to me is actually a part of that chain. Club Indianapolis, to be exact. I'm thinking about trying again, but I'm not too sure about it. I just don't want to waste another $30 walking into a building full of people triple my age.

SilverCloud: This might be a very valid point, if you are into guys of your age group only. I go by the rule: 'Never pay for something, if you can get it for free or for less'. If you do not need to burn $30.00 to get your rocks off, well, don't.

Jack: Check out this site for helpful information: http://www.bathhouseaddict.com/

Sunbuns99: It's just a fact of (gay) life -- the baths suck (but sometimes sSOOOoo good!) Stop complaining - either try them out, recognizing the problems and limitations or shut up about it. It's probably true what was said about the timing and location are very important and it really depends on WHAT you can tolerate in order to 'get your rocks off."

If you want sex on a steady basis, then get a boyfriend or husband or marry a woman (release your inner bisexuality)..... and of course, you have to deal with everything involved in a LTR. Baths are what they are. Good for some, barely bearable for others... LOCATION counts. Timing is important. It depends - there are good ones in

North American - although that's generally the exception -- not the norm.

I'm middle aged but since I stay in shape and generally look and act young (enough), it's not such a problem being about to 'pick' between offers from guys in their 20s to those in their 50s. It might be problematic for the 20-year-old.. but you're still in college or at least college age - so go west, young men and fuck a fraternity!

Barebackteen is absolutely right about most European 'saunas'..I should know - I visited the one he recommended in Brussels and was completely impressed (although I had been to similar ones in other EU states) and tired out from all the sex.

For North Americans, however, the 'baths' ofter are simply

(sometimes dingy dark) places to go to get your rocks off --- even the chain of baths mentioned earlier -- We're talking about sex with strangers -- gettting off anonymously -- so if the clientele turns your stomach -- or allowing some 40 to 50 something 'old' guy 'do' you (or you to 'do' him)...then just don't do it, and go back to the 'tried and true' -- blind dates, bar hopping, public tea-rooms (toilets - 'cottaging') or something more virtual sex - webcam sex or phone sex, hooking up with a Craig's List or Manhunt type. Sex is a highly overrated pasttime anyway. (LOL)

Japan, where I spend a great deal of time - is a different kettle of fish -- there are 'men's saunas' that are totally straight (well..actually there IS no such thing - but where sex is not condoned), and there are those that are mainly for male-to-male sex purposes - but NOT simply that alone. They also serve as gay 'community' centers - of a sort - with regular customers who use the exercises or sun-roof (or jacy to socialize, and sunbath, or the cafe for eating and chatting.. - which is a lot like the European ones.. except that each 'sauna' in Japan (especiall Tokyo) tends to appeal to a certain age of clientele - 45-65 group, the 30ish-50 group, and the under 30 group tend to segregate into different areas of the city. 

 So the sauna's (not that numerous actually) tend to have customers in those age ranges. I got the impression that it depends on the day of the week for what age of customer is most common in the European (and probably North American) baths.

The alternative to 'baths' are

also quite popular in Japan -- which doesn't seem to exist any more (let me know if I am wrong) is the sex club or porn video cubicle club.... (perhaps these still exist in the US but I have not seen one in operation is many years).

The Japanese version is a dark single story space - subdivided into many small cubicles - some are large enough for a sleeping mattress, and others are just for video viewing, but you pay an entrance fee (1000 - 2000 yen) and then remove your clothes/shoes and store in a locker. (dress code may be required or not - such as underwear or jockstraps, but full nudity is the accepted practice). 

Then guys try to go from cubicle to cubicle - either going inside or hanging outside - there are glory holes and also peek holes in the walls between to 'facilitate' oral and anal sex or if the guys are mutually attracted they get in the same stall and bang away.. In some of these 'sex clubs' there are bigger rooms or dark rooms for 'group' activities.. so it can get really hot and sweaty and cum soaked. Unfortunately, sometimes there is only one bathroom and may or may not be anything but that... or a coin-operated shower stall... It's kind of kinky and a 'cheap' way to get quick anonymous sex for the young, the older and the married man who needs cock.